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« 回覆文章 #45 於: 2011-06-08 23:59:19 » |
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玩得高興就好啦! 有時候設備是現實的 要玩出什麼效果看個人的想法 科學重在真實,藝術在某個層面也反映出內心的真實 但往往探索與追求這真實就耗掉某個程度的心力 求得的結果,可能自己都還懷疑他是不是真實 太去在意成果,往往是在追求那毫不可能或不太真實的百分之百 沮喪會再越接近的時候越大 但如果心態轉而去享受這中間的過程,那樂趣就大多了
不要把我一的一己之見看得太重,我直接反應我的看法,也不要想太多 你正在享受那個過程,那才是最有樂趣的地方,也很高興你可以分享給大家 最近我也在找新的點子來玩玩,但我玩到後來的成果都用不上 哈哈!也不知道在搞什麼
對不起!一些謬論影響了你一整天
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« 最後編輯時間: 2011-06-09 00:04:54 由 大瘋起嘻 »
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« 回覆文章 #46 於: 2011-06-09 12:05:51 » |
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恩,个人而言,不论成果讲乐趣这是说得对。另大众游戏规则也是要的,也是存在的,我说过这游戏很公平公正。 只是我以前没有很好地理解到这个游戏规则,我在这个论坛唯一学到的,便是这一点,我觉得很有启发性。 不分成果,不分好瀤,只会计较成本,这并不是好事,个人可以做不到,但不能说这游戏不对。 做不到就小出声,严格来说做不到,就连发言权都不应该有的,这是基本的道德,做人的原则。 我目前是做不到了,也看不到前面会有很大的改变余地。 没有影响我心情的啦,大家想说便说而已。
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« 回覆文章 #47 於: 2011-06-09 12:47:54 » |
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成本是一定會有的
當然這也是選擇性的問題
我個人也不會太去計算成本, 大致上我的設備都是中低階
但那也不會影響我玩天文的樂趣
因為我的樂趣並不是在用最好, 拍最好的, 而是在嘗試
所以我現在大部份都拿著攝星板來拍, 最近又想要改一些結構能夠自由追蹤
我喜歡想法跟別人不一樣, 哈哈! 一陣子一定讓大家嚇一跳
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« 回覆文章 #48 於: 2011-06-16 12:48:25 » |
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« 最後編輯時間: 2011-06-16 19:11:50 由 MANDII »
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峰迥路转 : 人皆寻萝 萝里迥转吉凶 片刻春风得意 未知景物朦胧 人生如萝 萝里不分西东 寻乐不甚苦困 未识苦与乐同 他朝醒觉梧桐 是否夸凤成龙
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« 回覆文章 #49 於: 2011-07-15 10:43:13 » |
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" 那棚架有轮子,可以很顺滑地转动竿,把帆布拉开和收起。 它的位置已予留和倆边成90度的墙壁隔开一尺半的宽度,以后会再弄花槽,种高高的树木, 像那颗松树那么高的密密的,那样就成了一个空中花园,也可以挡光。"
去年12月13日我在贴里是按上面那么说的,刚过去的星期天,终于把花槽差不多造好了。 我从6月开始拍板做,一做就做上了一个月半时间,期间我是大部份在晚上弄的, 这次整个工程真的只有我一个人做了,由头带到尾。 高技术高科技的东西我不会DIY,像这种粗东西我还是能应负得来。 玩天文,让我发挥了不少的创造能力,好像DIY有个瘾那样,一年一个工程项目,09年搞天文台,10年搞活动棚架和白房(白房就不算我搞 ,只是买),然后今年11年就搞了花槽。明年到时可能没啥东西搞就真的会去搞大牛反。 目前4大工程,总的来说,我觉得为何要DIY呢,就是要自己怎么想,就怎么去做,要实现心里所想的,然后要省钱,就是那样。
花槽长4米半和3米半倆段成L型铺于天台俩边,高42公分(厘米),阔40公分,决定自己动手做前找过几家装修公司了解情况,像这样尺寸的花槽价钱要1万 2左右,外层磁砖要是他们规定的那种一般国内磁砖,如果要好的磁砖就还得另外加钱。我自己在香港买日本进口的才1200港币,一共130多条倆种磁砖,加上内层红砖180多块,15包沙,2包英泥,,1瓶英泥宝加强密度和防水功效,还有4包石仔,一共1000左右,连磁砖总材料包运费在2300港币,就那么多了。 另外树木方面,装修公司以面积每平方尺计算,一平方400港币,包泥土,肥料和植物,植物也是他们规定好,也不怎么样那种,也可以补钱买好的。那按那样算我面积有(长:8米x3.3=26.4尺,阔:40厘米/33=1.2尺),那就31.6平方尺,即1万3千港币,而且还都是一些很小颗的植物。那如果找装修公司总价要2万5港币。 那些树木我便决定在深圳花草批发市场买,品种又多又平宜,我买了8棵罗汉松,每棵才120人民币,像那么高大的罗汉松每棵在香港要7,8百。8棵就 6000了。还有2棵紫微树,一棵芒果树(有长5个芒果),竹子18支,6盘抹梨花,还有藤类花几盘,其它的小花小草,一共就1800人民币。
另泥土最花钱,你看不出来要下那么多土的,我是问深圳买花那里才知道要下多少土的,1个立方米花槽就得1300公斤(KG)的土,即1.3吨土,我那里是 1.4立方米,就得买1800公斤左右的土,我买了1700公斤,90包总共。在香港同样的一包土要35块一包(20多公斤),那按正常光泥土都要 3100港币了,肥料3包每包80,240了。我在深圳买80包才500人民币,3包肥料150。加上运费1900人民币,运费指的是全部东西,树木连泥土一车过运来香港,送到家门口,一共是1900人民币。那么等于是我买花和土花了(1800+500+150+1900=4350)人民币,即5200港币花了。
对比一下真有意思,如果是正常在香港买花和土,就只说那8棵罗汉松和土吧,其它的植物都不计算,得要 6000+3100+240=9340港币,我现在才 5200港币,还多了10几盘植物出来。花槽我那里本来要1万三也只要2300,那整个花槽连花,本来总价一共是13000+9340=22340(只得 8颗罗汉松),我现在只要5200+2300=7800(包所有的树和花), 我想其它的树和花那里在香港买起码也得要个3000的。那么,总造价2万6是跑不掉的,我现在只要7800,即8000总造价可以了,省了3份2成本,省了18000接近倆万港币。
MANDII 2011/07/15
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« 回覆文章 #50 於: 2011-07-15 12:30:07 » |
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US ASTRONOMY/CLOUDY NIGHTS
The Observatory is located on the platform . It's necessary to make the platform looks better . I had designed the whole platform indeed , since the day I built this Observatory 2 years ago . At that time I thought it should be looks like a garden , with a house . Last year the house is built , and I had made one sheld as well . The cover on the shelter can be opened and closed by rolling . The house is bought and not made by me . But the rolling shelter is made by me one person . This year , I decide to settle all the plants and build up an observatory garden . Those trees can sheld lots of light that come from western side of the platform . Height of the trees and house was designed not higher than 20 degree elevation when looking from the the observatory .
Samely , everything needed DIY , to save money . And turns impossible to possible . I DIY a concret container for plants , total cost including all the palnts and soil is around 8000 HKD , saving at least 20 thousand HK dollars if I ask the shop to build one for me . I spent nearly 1 and half month to complete this build . Most of the time I make it at night time after daily work . It was nearly completed last sunday . Very tired indeed recently . but very happy .
Astronomy remind me one thing , Keep on doing things by own ,step by steply .
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« 回覆文章 #51 於: 2011-07-20 11:31:40 » |
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MANDII : 07/15/11 04:45 AM Yes Mike , quite lots of work indeed , but fortunately I just spent the time longer . bit by bit can finish tough works . You know the time is always the best helper .
I had to bring nearly 90 packages of soil , each package around 20 KG upstair 3 floors . You don't heard about that 1 cubic meter volunm of container needed to be filled nearly 1300KG of soil . I aslo do not know it before . And my container is about 1.3 cubic meter ( 8M * 0.42M* 0.4M=1.3 ) in volunm , so need totally 1700KG of soil .
I had calling local people to pick these bags actually , but they charged me too much . very expensive that they counted me in each KG and needed over 1500 dollars . Well , I forgot how much the exactly charges now , but anyway very expensive that I could not accept it at that time . Finally ... I pick up bag by bag , in nearly 1 week of nights .
MANDII : 07/19/11 11:05 PM
Once again thank you Sir Herman . I see you also have a big telescope and probably an observatory in your icon picture .
Well , you let me thinking once again the whole story now .. . Actually , most importantly and main purpose in setting up these trees , is to work as a SUN shelter . In local HK climate , there is two months you are feeling hot in a whole year , July and August . The temperature can always reach to over 30 degree celcious . The other 10 months are not hot . In down floor living room you don't need to turn on the internal air conditioner in these months , except the two hotest months in Summer time . According my observation experience in these years , the rooftop platform is getting hot starting from noon time , and reach the higest temperature at 4 o'clock afternoon , And then it starts to drops down . Thus , the amount of the sun moving shadow that it lays and moves on the rooftop , that was shelted by the rolling cover(cloths) and the trees , should be counted the area according to the sun moving time starting noon time to 4'clock , and in which specific direction and location as well . As of now , totally 8 meters long Tree container shelding the West and South West Sun heat ,and about 1.9M height of these trees ,can covers over 70% areas on the rooftop . I mean the total covering area that takes effect when the shadow moves at these afetrnoon time range . The rolling shelter cloths can be opened and closed by a steel wheel , in nightime and daytime respectively . Most of the other months in a year , I open the shelter such that I still can look at the night sky .
How many , how big and which location I should setup these trees and the shelter , is needed to be decided . And needed to be designed at the beginning time . At the very beginning indeed counting to the time when deciding to build this obesrvatory two years ago indeed ! The difficulty is also at the very beginning time when it's hard to decide these kind of things . But you are not able to change everthing anymore , after it was built . Old chinese word always tells me the truth . " Things started not easily at the beginning time , and getting easy as you go stepping forward one by one " .
Thank you Sir .
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« 回覆文章 #52 於: 2011-07-31 16:37:06 » |
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The Hong Kong Observatory located at the highest mountain in Hong Kong , is very far away from my observatory and from my telescope . Should have more than 10 kilometers distance apart from here . But today I can peer it with my DSI ,through those leaves and trees nearby . I had recorded down it's visual coordinates as well .
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« 回覆文章 #53 於: 2011-07-31 18:12:31 » |
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刚刚在试牛反配web cam 拍鸟, 倆三秒的时间便能有40多张帖,再叠加十几张,效果明显比几个月之前用DSI只有一张帖好多。 照片还没做平场处理。
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« 回覆文章 #54 於: 2011-07-31 18:27:31 » |
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這也能拍,好厲害
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« 回覆文章 #55 於: 2011-08-01 09:54:17 » |
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呵呵,多谢多谢
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« 回覆文章 #56 於: 2011-08-06 17:46:45 » |
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NO.55 ) 这只鸟追踪了好久才把它打下来,从山林那边追到人家屋顶天线上,再慢几拍就跑掉。 ORION 6“ Newtonian EQ3 web cam ( 20 frames ) REGISTAX Observe : 2011/8/06 16:00
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« 回覆文章 #57 於: 2011-08-07 14:39:50 » |
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这个可能是鸟巢。因为风比较大,树摇得很利害,便用web cam 好叠加一点。 This is the bird nest , since today is windy , the tree moves a lot , so I choose to use web cam for fast capture and more accurate stacking of images . I start to find it since noon time , outside temperature reach 32 degree celcious , but in the observatory it's quite cool when the dome and the door is opened .
( RA :18h35m DEC:+2)
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« 回覆文章 #58 於: 2011-08-21 17:14:27 » |
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Once again two birds this afternoon is shoot by 6" newtonian with web cam .
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« 最後編輯時間: 2011-08-21 17:28:55 由 MANDII »
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